Matty Hewitt sat down with Connor Southwell, chief Norwich City writer for the Pink Un to preview this weekend's clash with the Canaries.
Sunderland head to Carrow Road on the back of three consecutive defeats with their play-off hopes slipping through their grasp.
Eight points adrift, they face a near perfect run between now and the end of the season to finish in that top-six.
Norwich on the other hand, are five games unbeaten as David Wagner's side mount their own assault on the play-off positions.
Matty and Connor discuss the season so far, the last meeting between the two sides and what's going on with former Sunderland defender Danny Batth.
The ex-Black Cats defender was among the standout performers last season, but moved to Norwich in the summer and has been on the fringes of things so far this season.
You can find out why in the player below, over on YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts from.
Read the rules here